Legislature(1993 - 1994)

04/15/1993 07:07 PM Senate FIN

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  SENATE BILL NO. 126:                                                         
                                                                               
       An  Act making  special appropriations  for  design and                 
       construction  of  power transmission  interties between                 
       Anchorage and  the Kenai  Peninsula, between  Healy and                 
       Fairbanks,  and  between the  Swan  Lake and  Tyee Lake                 
       hydroelectric projects; and  providing for an effective                 
       date.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce announced that CSSB  126(FIN) "B" work draft                 
  was before the committee.  Senator  Sharp MOVED for adoption                 
  of the "B" version of CSSB 126(FIN).  Hearing no objections,                 
  IT WAS SO ORDERED.                                                           
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp  MOVED for  adoption of  amendment 1  deleting                 
  Sec.  8  (copy  on  file).    Co-chair Pearce  OBJECTED  for                 
  discussion  purposes.    Senator Sharp  said  that  the CSSB
  126(FIN) assumed an  additional $9,300.0 was needed  to fund                 
  the  new revolving  fund  so that  it  could accomplish  the                 
  intent of $1.1 that stated as far as the financing over  the                 
  twenty year  period.   That appropriation  from the  general                 
  fund is  no longer  required.  Co-chair  Pearce REMOVED  her                 
  objection.   Hearing no  other objections,  amendment 1  was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp  spoke  to  each  of  the  sections  of  CSSB
  126(FIN).                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce announced  that amendment  2 (copy on  file)                 
  was before  the committee and  invited Cam Toohey,  staff to                 
  Senator Sharp,  prime sponsor  of SB 126  and Brent  Petrie,                 
  Manager/Planning  &  Project   Development,  Alaska   Energy                 
  Authority to join  the committee  at the table  to speak  to                 
  amendment 2.  Co-chair Pearce spoke  to amendment 2 and said                 
  that the amount  that was in  the Governor's request to  the                 
  legislature had been reduced by about 40 percent.                            
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly OBJECTED, and asked for  an explanation of the                 
  last two sections on page of 2 of amendment 2.  BRENT PETRIE                 
  said that the requests in the last two sections of amendment                 
  2  were prior requests made  under the normal budget process                 
  and had been approved  by the Governor's office and  were to                 
  be requested by  AEA as program  receipt authority.  In  the                 
  case of  the first  section,  AEA has  received monies  from                 
  utilities and  other parties over  time to blend  with other                 
  monies that  have been  appropriated for  AEA to  complete a                 
  project.  He  explained that  sometimes it  is necessary  to                 
  cost-share  a  project.     The   way  the  revolving   fund                 
  legislation is written if money came  into the fund, AEA can                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  receive it but  the legislature must authorize AEA to expend                 
  it.  This section gives the  authority to expend such funds.                 
  In answer to  Co-chair Pearce, Mr.  Petrie said that it  was                 
  standard practice that every couple of years, this authority                 
  was requested from the legislature.                                          
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked if the $4.3M  was appropriated from the                 
  general  fund.   He also asked  if the  numbers were  in the                 
  Governor's capital budget request.  Co-chair Pearce answered                 
  affirmatively  that higher  numbers were  in the  Governor's                 
  capital request.   Senator  Rieger asked  if those  requests                 
  were appropriated to the Alaska Energy Revolving fund in the                 
  Governor's  request.    Mr. Petrie  said  that  the original                 
  capital budget requested a significant amount of those funds                 
  come from the  power development  revolving loan fund  which                 
  was reporting of quote receipts.  With CSSB 126, it was felt                 
  that about $2.1M could come from  the revolving fund and the                 
  other amounts although  worthy projects, would have  to come                 
  from the general fund as a supplement to the revolving fund.                 
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger  said that  a lot of  money was put  into the                 
  energy authority and  it looked as  if even more funds  were                 
  going into  the energy  equation.   Mr.  Petrie agreed  that                 
  these  amounts  would  be  general   funds  going  into  the                 
  revolving fund.   Mr. Petrie said  that he and Ron  Garzini,                 
  Executive Director,  AEA, were trying  to come up  with some                 
  kind  of transitional effort  during the first  year if this                 
  legislation passes.   Senator Rieger said that there had not                 
  been enough time to sort through what the  AEA has done with                 
  their  own money.   Senator Rieger questioned  the wisdom of                 
  transferring a  funding source to the general  fund when the                 
  general fund  is already under so much pressure for capital.                 
  It  would  seem to  put  more  burden on  the  general fund.                 
  Senator Sharp felt  that in future  years everyone would  be                 
  funded out of the new account that is being set up and these                 
  amounts  requested by AEA  was originally $12M.   The amount                 
  had now been reduced to $4M for the transition.                              
                                                                               
  Mr. Petrie  said that in  an earlier  version of SB  126, an                 
  estimated $10M from  the general fund  might be required  to                 
  make the  revolving fund work.   This is  substantially less                 
  than that amount. Discussion followed  between Senator Kelly                 
  and Co-chair  Pearce regarding the additional projects added                 
  to SB 126.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Senator Kelly asked who was going to do the bulk fuel system                 
  upgrade -- the Coast Guard, DEC,  or DC&RA.  He asked if  it                 
  was an  AEA project.  Mr.  Petrie said that  about two years                 
  ago regulations mandated  that fuel deliveries could  not be                 
  made  to  a number  of  rural  communities and  a  bulk fuel                 
  assessment  was initiated through  the Energy  Authority for                 
  many  rural  communities.    Since   last  year  funds  were                 
  appropriated for  AEA to do  repairs and upgrades  for these                 
  systems, a part  of small diesel systems in villages.  It is                 
                                                                               
                                                                               
  not something new that AEA is doing  but felt that it should                 
  be  elevated  in  importance.     DEC  is  involved  in  the                 
  regulatory  because  of  the statutory  arrangement  -  they                 
  regulate the larger tanks.   The Coast Guard is  involved in                 
  regulating any fuel  facility where fuel deliveries  come by                 
  vessel.  The AEA  has no regulatory authority but  they have                 
  some technical abilities  to make  the corrections that  are                 
  necessary.                                                                   
                                                                               
  Senator Rieger asked if the $4.3M would be appropriated into                 
  the Alaska Energy  Revolving Fund and appropriated  back out                 
  to   the    projects   as   outlined,    basically   capital                 
  appropriations except that  the funding source  has changed.                 
  Mr. Petrie said that the money  would be allocated and money                 
  would drawn from  those funds for  those projects up to  the                 
  maximum limit authorized by the legislation.  The Governor's                 
  budget there  were over $3.5M  in general fund  requests for                 
  capital projects for the AEA.                                                
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce invited  Mark Hickey, Contract  Lobbyist for                 
  the city of King Cove, to  join the committee at the  table.                 
  Mark Hickey said  that $250.0 was  not adequate to  complete                 
  the King  Cove hydroelectric  project, and  that $500.0  was                 
  needed to complete the budget  which would bring the state's                 
  contribution to $3M,  half of  which was  funded last  year.                 
  That  amount  is  being matched  by  approximately  the same                 
  amount, $2.7M (a loan of $2M, $250.0 cash contributions from                 
  the Aleutians East Borough and $450.0 cash contribution from                 
  the city of  King Cove).   $500,000 is the remaining  amount                 
  needed.   He  said that $3M  was the  amount that  the state                 
  expected to spend  when the  study was first  done for  this                 
  facility.                                                                    
                                                                               
  Co-chair Pearce announced  that CSSB 126(FIN) would  be held                 
  and brought up again later in the meeting.                                   
                                                                               
  Note:  The following section for  CSSB 126(FIN) was moved so                 
  that the minutes for CSSB 126(FIN) are in the one place.                     
                                                                               
  Senator  Sharp MOVED  to amend amendment  2 by  reducing (1)                 
  Rural Power Systems Upgrade to $650,000, (6) Alternative and                 
  Applied  Energy  Technology  Development  to  $350,000,  and                 
  increase (7)  King Cove  Hydroelectric Project to  $500,000.                 
  Senator   Kelly  withdrew  his   objection  to  the  amended                 
  amendment.  No other objections being heard, amendment 2 was                 
  ADOPTED.                                                                     
                                                                               
  Senator Sharp MOVED for passage of CSSB  126(FIN) as amended                 
  from  committee   with  individual   recommendations.     No                 
  objections being heard,  CSSB 126(FIN)  was REPORTED OUT  of                 
  committee with  a "do  pass".   Co-chairs Pearce  and Frank,                 
  Senators Kelly, Sharp, and Jacko signed  "do pass."  Senator                 
  Rieger signed "no recommendation."  Senator Kerttula was not                 
  present at the meeting and did not sign.                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               

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